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Cellnet are a hopeless shower. Really.

MMS orGPRS? What on earth?

Of course, the fact that this might be a limitation isn't mentioned until you wonder why nothing works...

PLUG!!!

Date: 2003-09-30 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aoakley.livejournal.com
MMS orGPRS? What on earth?

Utter codswallop. I am on O2/Cellnet and I have both MMS and GPRS. You played with both on my phone holiday, remember?

What they mean is "Do you want MMS with your GPRS, or do you just want plain old GPRS without MMS?". Answer: You want MMS with your GPRS, so just ask for MMS.

GPRS is a prerequisite for MMS so if you get MMS they *have* to give you GPRS. GPRS is used as the transport method FX: trails off into seven-layer protocol mumbling...



Anyway, seeing as we're talking about things WAP-like, time for me to plug my baby:



Read Victorian classic literature on your mobile phone! Shelly, HG Wells, Jules Verne, Bram Stoker etc.

Except that one of the drives on the server's RAID array is U/T, so expect the service to be bouncy until I swap it out next Monday.

Re: PLUG!!!

Date: 2003-09-30 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Yes. I recall. And with 20/20 hindsight, a second coffee and some poking in the config, that much is obvious.

However. Woman At O2 said "MMS or GPRS. Can't have both, computers won't support it." and until a couple of hours later, I wasn't in much of a position to argue. And there's this. (http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html)

[ Shrug ]

I'll bother them again tomorrow. If the one works, but the interweb varnishes, I shall become sarcastic. If not downright testy.

Lord alone knows what's going through O2's collective heads. Pictures of fluffy kittens, like as not.

Re: PLUG!!!

Date: 2003-09-30 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarkman.livejournal.com
No, they *have* to give you GPRS to their MMS APN to give you MMS. That's not (necessarily) the same thing as giving you GPRS to the APN that gets you the Wider Internet.

And we have devices on which we can show you one working and not the other - though it may be that your Cunning Hack will get around it.... :-)

Date: 2003-09-30 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aoakley.livejournal.com
It would seem that whilst Other Airtime Providers may have figured that out, O2 Cellnet have not.

Lucky us.

I do rather think that it is stretching the word "hack" to describe blindly plugging in connection details supplied by the provider. I mean, it isn't as if I sat down and thought "Gosh, I wonder if I can defeat their billing system by using their MMS gateway as my Internet gateway?". I actually thought that was what I was supposed to do- I only had one set of connection details.

If that isn't how you're supposed to do it, that still doesn't make it a "hack", that makes it an administrative cock-up.

I did wonder why I wasn't being billed for GPRS data, but until Sexbat mentioned it, I wasn't about to make a huge fuss about it. I presumed I wasn't being billed simply because I hadn't exceeded whatever bundled allowance I had. It isn't like I'm streaming movies to my laptop, I only use it for MMS, WAP and a few regular web pages over Java- can't be that much.

Does anyone know what volume of bundled GPRS data comes with the 25-pound-a-month package with a fiver's worth of bolt-ons?

Date: 2003-09-30 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarkman.livejournal.com
Apparently, their billing system is famously ramshackle and shite. I'm sure thay'll work out how to do it eventually...

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