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It's that time of year again.

It's usually quite pleasant to take a loop round bits of Bath of a lunchtime, especially right now while it's the close season on irritating crocodiles of irritating French youth. It used to be, or maybe still is a common written belief that French teenagers were better dressed and/or more 'sophisticated' (whatever that actually means) than our own. After sadly extensive research, I call 'complete bollocks' on that.

However, while there aren't that many sullen little oiks meandering into the street in front of buses, places like Kingsmead Square are good to walk across. There's usually a fruit & veg stall, run by some hardy and amiable sorts who don't seem to bother with the brass-lunged howling perpetrated by the mob who set up stall outside Marks and Sparks. Since they had Seville oranges in, I availed myself of a carrier - 'You'll be wanting some lemons, too' went the bloke, since he'll have seen marmalade pilots before now.

As is the nature of these things, I discovered that I had no surplus jam jars when at home. I also forgot to beetle out to Lakeland for a box of the things because making a 4x10Gb card work in an old server took more swearing than I anticipated.

At the weekend, we had to beetle off to a posh garden centre because they were the next nearest supplier of organic flour for the breadmaking machine. (Middle class bingo!) Across the way from the collection of flour that we did not want was the sort of expensively-not-rustic table that keeps artisanal things off the floor where they should be. It was mounded with Kilner-branded things. Jars, thermometers, tiny wee annoyances of cam-lidded jars that you could keep one teaspoon of something in and a make-your-own-bacon kit (live pig eyeing you with due suspicion - not included). I couldn't find a box of jam jars, mind.

In the middle of the Kilner-pile and easily overlooked among the traditional jam thermometers, rustic preserving funnels and wooden display boxes with rope handles akin to ammunition boxes destined for some terrifying middle-class war zone, were a pair of single jars. Two quid a go. For a single jar. With 'Home-made marmalade' screen printed on the side in some traditional font lovingly selected by craftsman designers and organic focus groups.

Had I not been distracted by a huge wall of Thompson & Morgan seed packets, I would have steamed out of the shop in medium dudgeon.

It's... I'm one-and-a-bit generations off a set of people who made jam (and/or marmalade, pickles et al) from the stuff they grew (or not, in the case of Seville oranges) because it's what you did. Mostly it was for consuming over the course of yea-many months because there wasn't a bloody Tesco local open 'til 10 on a Sunday where you could get fresh(ish) strawberries that had been flown in from wherever. Sometimes it was for showing off at the produce show and maybe winning a prize. Jam jars came from a dusty shelf or the back of a cupboard where they'd been stored after (re)use.

They did not come on a faux-rustic table with a designery typeface for two quid each on the assumption that the full extent of your fruit-preservation effort would be a pair of bloody jars to show off like you're the third coming of some pioneering frontier type bringing civilisation to the untamed wilds of Almondsbury.

And yet.

I don't have to have anything to do with this. I can/should go to the shop like a normal person and buy nice marmalade in a nice jar, rather than boil my own bitter concoction that's got all the finesse of someone hammering whole oranges into the filthy jars that he found at the bottom of the garden. I'm the one with the handy tesco and the handy farm shop and the handy lidl. Any notions I have about keeping fruit to feed my family in the lean months are a complete fiction. It's a pointless bloody exercise that leaves a sticky residue across half the kitchen and a selection of half-started jars that eventually attract new and exciting strains of mould.

And yet.

There's a few more weeks of the Seville season. I can't help but feel that I should be out there, buying all the oranges I can find. Because otherwise they'll go to waste.

I had a point, but hell if I know what it was. Probably that I go mental in the winter. Also Baudrillard.

Date: 2016-01-12 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
I'm also awfully close to preserving your own fruit because you have to. There was never anything fun about it, it was all miserable and a chore. (Remember - nothing nice grows in Saskatchewan. Canned crabapples for dessert all winter? Yes. My aunt kept all the strawberries she grew for herself. We only got good stuff in the short period when my grandparents moved to the Okanagan and had an orchard).

And I *still* nearly came home from Utah[1] with a complete set of Mason jars and the great big boiler-y apparatus for preparing it. Fortunately, before incurring a load of FedEx fees I realised that I don't have access to that amount of free fruit to preserve. If I go pick blackberries I will barely come home with enough to make jam. I will never amass enough to need to can fruit.

I kind of love the idea of being that self-sufficient, but I have limited time and energy, and more to the point, space.

Date: 2016-01-12 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
[1] Unreferenced footnote.

Yes.

A while ago, the friends-of-the-family who live/lived in/near Tyvan, Sask, gave my parents a subscription to, er, Grain News. (IIRC Mum still has the decorative models of Weyburn Inland Terminal and yes this is entirely normal.) In that publication there was always an advert for a book which should have been called 'The merchant seafarer's guide to dealing with terrible things' because the picture of the cover featured a drawing of a Great Lakes freighter and a drawing an arm severed at the elbow with sticks and snotrags for a tourniquet.

That's the image that comes to mind whenever I start thinking about self-sufficiency.
Edited Date: 2016-01-12 02:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-01-13 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
[1] thought better of it, but the original was, that was the same trip where I was tempted to come home with a Korean-war era Army jeep, so my judgment may have been impaired.

Date: 2016-01-13 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
'Jeep' 'impaired'.

No, I'm sorry, but I really can't see what might be wrong with that. [/nothelping]

Date: 2016-01-13 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
All I could think of was the episode of MASH where the Cajun sends his family a jeep, one part at a time...?

Date: 2016-01-12 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushidog.livejournal.com
I come from jam, as it were. I remember my great aunt buying seville oranges by the crate in season, and making pounds and pounds of it (some of which she would have in her toast for breakfast every day, and some would go to sales of work at the local church). My grandmother made it too, and would make me a little (sandwich paste, I suppose, or babyfood, perhaps) jar of jelly marmalade, the bits strained out because I wasn't keen, while granddad liked his bits big and bitter.
My mum used to make it; she'll still do the occasional batch of jam, but I don't think she's done marmalade in years, and she's doing less and less now. When I was home at Christmas, I realised they have a cupboard full of probably sixty or so dusty jam jars; I don't suppose they'll ever be used (they buy most of their jam, and various other substances in jars, so there's no shortage), but I don't think they'd let me get rid of them and free up some cupboard space.

Date: 2016-01-12 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Yarp. That sounds really quite familiar. Shop jam/marmalade/bread always felt somehow wrong or decadent.

Mind, I guess that 'Decadent' could mean 'Filled with random stuff that's probably bad for you so the suppliers have an easy time of it'.

Date: 2016-01-12 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com
Um, you work in Bath. Go to Lakeland!

Date: 2016-01-12 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] venta.livejournal.com
Living in a flat, I lack the attics and cupboards and basements and such for the storage of jam jars. There's still a space on top of the fridge for jars though. Some are full of dust, some are full of last year's brambles or the rather dubious chutney I made because the recipe sounded interesting (it isn't). Sevilles, you say. I'm sure I could clean the dust out of the necessary, wonder where near me will sell me some sevilles.

Date: 2016-01-12 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Most good greengrocers and some crap ones, I would hope.

Date: 2016-01-12 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cybermule.livejournal.com
Always Baudrillard. Because you can.

Date: 2016-01-12 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Quite. I blame the dearth of the author.

Date: 2016-01-12 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-siobhan.livejournal.com
:-)

Beckett Street Cemetery used to be full of blackberries and I used to make lovely jam from them, it's been tarted up and cleared now so no more brambles but maybe it's just as well as not many folks would eat it when i told them where the ingredients came from.

Date: 2016-01-12 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Cuh. People. They way their little faces go funny when I tell them it's 'Stuff I found in the hedge' jam.

Date: 2016-01-13 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
But that's where jam comes from, right?

One of the lovely things that grows in Saskatchewan (Saskatoon berries - kind of like a little, more purple blueberry) grow wild all over the place. When they're in season, half the city would decamp to the valley to pick buckets of them to preserve & make jam out of.

Date: 2016-01-13 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
One of the best places in Bristol to get brambles and wild garlic is Arnos Vale Cemetery.

Re: Beckett Street - I worked across the road from there at St James's for two years in the early 90s. It never occurred to me to go scavenge for food. Doh!

Date: 2016-01-13 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-siobhan.livejournal.com
I used to live near Arnos Vale but only went round it a couple of times - really regret not making more of it when I could have done.
No pickings whatsoever at Beckett St now but they are trying to make more of it as a place to visit civic pride-wise, I think they should be shouting more about how it was the first municipally funded cemetery in England.

Date: 2016-01-13 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inulro.livejournal.com
Part of Arnos Vale is being kept as a nature reserve; so there are parts that have been cleaned up but still acres of wildness too.

Date: 2016-01-17 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarah-mum.livejournal.com
I have jars of home-made jam which have moved house with us twice. Elderberry is nice as a novety, but it's not an everydayer.
I contemplated jamming the fruit of the Richard's softfruit garden, but finally gave in to not having the inclination to eat enough of the results.
Still felt odd handing over my collection of empty jars to an enthusiastic freecycler.

Date: 2016-01-18 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hirez.livejournal.com
Yes to these things.

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