Cor - wish I'd have taken photo's of some of the Slovakian pylons - some of them are just as butch as you'd expect in an ex-communist engineering sense.
I feel guilty in pointing out that the site's a spoof. Bolted together in an anti-busspotter frenzy by some fellow on the Attilla the Stockbroker list.
Not that being anti bus-spotters is a bad thing.
Psychogeography. That's what you want. The hidden maps.
On the other hand I used to love taking photographs of all sorts of industrial crap in and around colliery close to where I grew up. I went back there recently and discovered that, like most other pits, it's been razed to the ground and is now a housing estate. =:-/
[occasionally people tell me this, but over the last week i've been accused of being weird and scary three times in livejournal, and about twenty times irl. i'm starting to think this is a bit weird, and perhaps a little scary...]
i just find things like that pretty. and a little sexy, sometimes :P manhole covers, manholes [shh you, at the back], construction sites, discarded white goods, burnt out houses, billboards, car crashes [oh dear, it's getting a bit cliche now].
hmm... pretty isn't really the word, just... interesting, i suppose. more interesting than flowers and trees and things anyway.
most things that are wideley accepted as 'art' don't often make me feel anything, but i've actually cried when i've seen a washing machine abandoned in the middle of a road.
I think it's only become a cliche because of The Normal/Carcrash International/JD - These people just picked up on the most extreme concepts because those were the bits that caused most shock and outrage. (IIRC, when Ballard exhibited the crashed cars [at the ICA?] members of the audience were physically sick. I suspect there are references within the ReSearch book.)
Exploring one's own notions of How Things Are (Are billboards ugly because Naiomi Klein says so? Why is that? Under what circumstances do they become not ugly? What is their function? What does that say about the way society works?) can be... A lot more fun than a media studies course. Or indeed receiving one's opinions from the Guardian.
But don't blame me if you end up scouring s/h bookshops for Vance Packard.
yes, it's very annoying how things get thrown into pop culture and suddenly become cliched. means you can't think and feel what you want without feeling like a fake.
I think that's a feeling that ought to be resisted, for the sake of keeping your own judgement honest. If you have a taste for (say) elegant dilapidation, and it's not just a rebellion against the Normal Way, then you wouldn't expect to change your tastes if Changing Rooms started stapling dead cars to the ceilings.
true - but i keep meeting people who claim to be really intrigued by this sort of thing and then when i try to have a converastion about it they suddenly stop knowing what i'm talking about once we've got past the 'yeah, the normal did a song about it' bit.
same with electronica and the 'electroclash' revival... but don't let me start ranting about that again ;)
I guess I think they have good intentions. They just haven't really paid attention to the many wonders of scrap, doubtless due to a shoddy education or poor parenting.
I like forgotten spaces. You know, disused electricity substations, small courtyards between old buildings, ruined farmhouses (with lots of rusty evil-looking machinery), abandoned houses where the rhodedendrons have run amok.
And scrap yards. I used to adore scrapyards, especially those where you'd get rows of cars where there were three or four stacked atop each other and you had to climb up them. You usually couldn't walk on the ground anyway as it was a foot deep in oily mud. Sadly these things seem to have gone the way of witches hats - deemed too dangerous for the public and therefore no longer accessible.
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Date: 2003-06-16 03:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-16 03:39 am (UTC)i so want to take up pylon number collecting now. and i'm not even being sarcastic.
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Date: 2003-06-16 03:49 am (UTC)I feel guilty in pointing out that the site's a spoof. Bolted together in an anti-busspotter frenzy by some fellow on the Attilla the Stockbroker list.
Not that being anti bus-spotters is a bad thing.
Psychogeography. That's what you want. The hidden maps.
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Date: 2003-06-16 04:02 am (UTC)i guessed, silly :P
didn't stop me from deciding to make it my life's ambition though. something to do, and all that.
Psychogeography. That's what you want. The hidden maps.
yeah... i saw a program about that ages ago, seemed really interesting.
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Date: 2003-06-16 05:03 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-16 05:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-16 08:04 am (UTC)Needed that. Ta.
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Date: 2003-06-18 02:01 am (UTC)i like taking photos of them, if that counts.
manholes that is, not man holes.
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Date: 2003-06-18 02:08 am (UTC)On the other hand I used to love taking photographs of all sorts of industrial crap in and around colliery close to where I grew up. I went back there recently and discovered that, like most other pits, it's been razed to the ground and is now a housing estate. =:-/
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Date: 2003-06-18 02:23 am (UTC)oh, not you as well..!
[occasionally people tell me this, but over the last week i've been accused of being weird and scary three times in livejournal, and about twenty times irl. i'm starting to think this is a bit weird, and perhaps a little scary...]
i just find things like that pretty. and a little sexy, sometimes :P manhole covers, manholes [shh you, at the back], construction sites, discarded white goods, burnt out houses, billboards, car crashes [oh dear, it's getting a bit cliche now].
hmm... pretty isn't really the word, just... interesting, i suppose. more interesting than flowers and trees and things anyway.
most things that are wideley accepted as 'art' don't often make me feel anything, but i've actually cried when i've seen a washing machine abandoned in the middle of a road.
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Date: 2003-06-18 05:11 am (UTC)Exploring one's own notions of How Things Are (Are billboards ugly because Naiomi Klein says so? Why is that? Under what circumstances do they become not ugly? What is their function? What does that say about the way society works?) can be... A lot more fun than a media studies course. Or indeed receiving one's opinions from the Guardian.
But don't blame me if you end up scouring s/h bookshops for Vance Packard.
Or indeed if I'm talking complete arse again.
Thinking about it, you can blame me for that.
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Date: 2003-06-18 06:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-18 07:31 am (UTC)that has had me and kirsten in fits :D
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Date: 2003-06-18 07:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-18 02:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-18 07:16 pm (UTC)same with electronica and the 'electroclash' revival... but don't let me start ranting about that again ;)
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Date: 2003-06-19 08:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-28 05:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-28 05:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-06-28 05:25 am (UTC);P
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Date: 2003-06-18 06:11 am (UTC)And scrap yards. I used to adore scrapyards, especially those where you'd get rows of cars where there were three or four stacked atop each other and you had to climb up them. You usually couldn't walk on the ground anyway as it was a foot deep in oily mud. Sadly these things seem to have gone the way of witches hats - deemed too dangerous for the public and therefore no longer accessible.
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Date: 2003-06-18 07:03 am (UTC)(Link to a site about Hanningfield Metals at the bottom)
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Date: 2003-06-16 10:59 am (UTC)Steam city
Date: 2003-06-18 01:45 pm (UTC)Re: Steam city
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Date: 2003-06-18 01:50 pm (UTC)