In which I am reminded to channel Mark Eris

[hirez]

This reminded me of living in London and a set of rude (to any sensible chap familiar with the ways of the public house) behaviours that I became unfortunately used to.

In short, London g*ths were a shower of bastards who never seemed to understand the concept of 'getting a round in'. I'm sure some of them thought it was dreadful working-person's football behaviour and was beneath them. It sure as hell never stopped them drinking the beer they were bought, the grasping little shits.

Thankfully I can't name names (Why should I let people like that stay in my head?) and as far as I can tell, none of the buggers made it to LJ.

However, it's nice to be reminded of something so one can get it off one's chest and move on.

Comments

[markeris.livejournal.com]

I quite like this idea that my name should be invoked whenever referring to goths as a shower of bastards.

[yaruar.livejournal.com]

I think karmically i'm owed a brewery in a future life due ot the tightness of fellow goths, although fortunately i do know a few who are capable of reaching deap into their pockets.

Even now if i see someone withought a beer and i'm thirsty i'll offer them a beverage of choice.

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Quite.

It's fair enough if you're skint - especially given the scary prices charged by the average club-owning shitbag - but it's generally considered good form to mention same at the time you're offered the beer, rather than leave it as a nasty surprise.

It's one of those 'Do as you would be done by (or forever be thought a complete cock)' things.

[twicezero.livejournal.com]

on the other hand i hate to be offered a drink by someone, who then expects one back... if i offer someone a sweet, do i then send them to the shop to buy me one?

I don't mind stumping people drinks, but i don't ever do it and expect one back...

of course i am a deviant and doesn't play well with others :)

[hirez.livejournal.com]

It's true though. I'd rather go out drinking with my wee brother's rugger-shirt-wearing mates than those black-clad fucks. At least the former mob know the score.

[steer.livejournal.com]

When did "shout" become a 'Strayan? Common question on entering a pub with bunch of people from the Northwest -- "C'mon you buggers, whose shout?"

[operon.livejournal.com]

I catch myself every so often accepting a first pint from someone when I know I have to go after one -- never thought too much of it before but perhaps it's worth adoptiong a more Australian attitude to that.

Not the staying til the pub closes bit but just the buying your own if you can't buy back thing...

Still I think karmically I've made up for it in the happy sharing of, err, other things with the crowd above and beyond my fair share over the years.

Andrew.

[mr-tom.livejournal.com]

Yes.

http://www.sirc.org/publik/pub.html should be compulsory by the 5th form.

[drpete.livejournal.com]

I think everyone should read < a href="http://www.sirc.org/publik/ptpchap5.html"> this which sums up the whole "round" etiquette quite nicely.

[drpete.livejournal.com]

Although I see mr_tom has got there first.

[hirez.livejournal.com]

It was one of those moments where I was looking for something else (the six o'clock swill), found that and had a road-to-the-offy experience.

I think the Antipodeans have taken it far to seriously, as it happens. The site pointed at by young masters Pete & Tom is the correct and English version of events.

And that question is familiar in the West, too.

[hsb.livejournal.com]

I tend to offer people drinks if I am talking to them when I head to the bar, or if I see them en route to the bar. Since I drink slowly, this means that I probably owe everyone drinks. On the plus side, I turn down most of the drinks offered to me, and if we are all sat down for a bit I'm reasonably good at keeping in line.

If someone kept strict score I'd be screwed, though. Damn, outed as a bludger.

I suspect this means that I owe you drink.

H

[aoakley.livejournal.com]

And on behalf of teetotallers everywhere, can I just state that:

[ankaret.livejournal.com]

Once again, I'm reminded of why I don't like going to pubs. I usually don't plan on hanging around until everyone's bought a round, and I only tend to carry enough money for a couple of drinks and a taxi home.

I usually try to get out of being bought a drink as part of a round by saying 'No, it's okay - I'm waiting for someone, I'll buy a drink then' or getting up to investigate the jukebox at the psychological moment. If someone buys me a drink anyway, I'll buy them one later.

Then again, I suspect this may be one of the things I fundamentally don't get due to being a girl. :p

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Yes Andrew. Perhaps the profiteering scum at the breweries can start to charge less for softies than they do for alco-craps and beer so the standard measure of same becomes a pint, then one won't have to explain to some surly foreign twat of a barperson that Al Murray is a parody and that you wanted a pint of diet coke.

[aeia.livejournal.com]

But soft drinks cost as much if not more than beer!

[hirez.livejournal.com]

No-one's keeping score. At least I'm not. It's a bit depressing that I felt minded to post about this in the first place.

[aoakley.livejournal.com]

This is a very common and entirely wrong misconception. I have yet to find a pub at which cola costs more per pint than lager.

A pint of cola will typically cost £1.60-£2.50, well within or under the typical price of lager. Even in London.

[aoakley.livejournal.com]

No they effing well don't. This is simply untrue.

[girfan.livejournal.com]

What they said.

When last in London a pint of Henry cost me almost 3 pounds...it would have been cheaper by far to buy a pint of beer, ale or even a glass of wine (which I didn't want).

At the Carling place in Birmingham (PWEI gig) it was £2.20 for a small bottle of still water.

[aoakley.livejournal.com]

Buying bottled products such as alcopops or orange juice or foriegn beers costs more per volume than draught. NO SURPRISE.

Your point illustrates the price difference between bottled and draught drinks of all types, it does not illustrate the price difference between alcoholic and soft drinks.

Buy draught soft drinks. I can assure you, with a lifetime's experience, that draught soft drinks per volume cost the same as, or less than, draught alcoholic drinks.

[diffrentcolours]

I get terribly middle-class and guilty if I get bought a drink and don't have an opportunity to return the favour in a short timescale. On the other hand, I think I'm well up in the pint-karma when drinking in goth circles, because they are all a shower of cunts.

I'm bloody well going dutch next time I eat in their company too. Bastards can't even toss a fair amount of cash into a pile in the middle of the table without arguments about whose starter cost 20p more than who else's.

[specialunclet.livejournal.com]

then start drinking yer miserable bastard!

[goth-twiglet.livejournal.com]

I'm going to jump on the "buying a round is not mandatory" bandwagon. I know that It might not be polite, or acceptable, but if I only have a small amount of money (which is a common occurrence) I don't want to spend it on other people's drinks. I know how much I drink (not a lot usually) and I know how much others drink (often quite a lot). I don't expect other people to buy me drinks (but if you really, really want to then I won't say "no") and if I'm flush or celebratory I will happily purchase drinks for other people without expecting one in return.

It's akin to the other perennial problem: the shared restaurant bill wherein I recently paid 35ukp for half a glass of wine, a glass of water a samosa and a single serving of mutton vindaloo, exactly the same as those who indulged themselves without stint at what felt like my expense.

I'm not mean or money-grabbing, but I am often monetarily embarrassed. And it's situations like these which often make me feel extremely uncomfortable. Why should I have to pay for what is in effect the pleasure of others' company? Bah, Humbug

[markeris.livejournal.com]

Having researched this extensively over the last 2 months I must disagree with the even in London section of your post.