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[hirez]

(It was a song)

I feel the need to take a tent and a laptop and go sit in a field with like-minded individuals this summer. Is there anything on the horizon, or do we have to self-organize? BarCamp Hay-on-Wye, for entirely random instance.

Elsewhere, the self-powered silentq pointed to Nice Guys versus nice guys and dating as a bisexual woman, both written by the clearly splendid divalion. I have to say that the first piece hits disturbingly close to home in some respects. (Or 'hit', at least. I like to think I'm better now.)

I should probably be writing some code, but I have the strange urge to bodge up some maximally wrong KPresenter slides instead. That's likely the reason I'm not asked to stand up and make presentations to the rest of the inmates here.

Comments

[kissmeforlonger.livejournal.com]

I think the first piece hits disturbingly close to home for anyone who's ever liked someone and not had it reciprocated, and struggled to deal with their feelings and behaviour afterwards. Some of that made me blush.

It also brought back very powerfully a memory about an ex who was absolutely determined for us to live together despite the fact that we'd only known each other a couple of months. It all got a bit much and we split fairly quickly - but I still remember his angry smile as he was trying to be OK about me not wanting to spend time with him. Hostility is the right word. After that I didn't want to have anything else to do with him, either.

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Yes, of course. It would be prime Nice Guy-think to assume it was Just Them.

I suspect that one of the conceptual failings of the Nice Guy is not understanding that 'girlies want it just as much as you do'.

[kissmeforlonger.livejournal.com]

IMO at the heart of such manipulations is the inability to believe that people can a) like you the way you are so no pretence is necessary, and b) the most suitable potential partner wants the same things as you, so pretending you want something different is totally counterproductive?

[jarkman.livejournal.com]

We should organise Dorkbot Dartmoor.

Like geocaching, but you come away with strange new ideas instead of a little plastic duck.

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Hm. Maybe.

I'd prefer it were nearer civilisation, bandwidth, nice pubs and s/h bookshops.

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. Shyness/self esteem problems and 'being helpful' rather than 'being a person'. Um, apparently...

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Hm. I recall looking at that when last kicking the idea around, but it didn't appeal. IIRC the BarCamp people wanted nice beds and access to dialout pizza, which entirely misses the point.

(Dear Lord. I think I'm being nostalgic about having to share a tent w/jarkman.)

[hirez.livejournal.com]

A brief Google later:

http://www.hollybushcamping.co.uk/index.html

[feyeleanor.livejournal.com]

I didn't even know there was a youth hostel in Margate - shows how much I noticed in eight years of living there :)

[feyeleanor.livejournal.com]

In the flat field sounds good so long as there's an uplink and power to keep my ThinkMac happy. Extra points for somewhere with showers...

[hirez.livejournal.com]

Observe the link above.

At the moment this is a thought-experiment, but the two next things would be to get a costing for a weekend's use of the function room and emailing English Pete to have a look at getting bandwidth to the tents. Mind, wireless might just work if there's a small enough number of people. On the other hand, any excuse to try out RFC-2322...

[feyeleanor.livejournal.com]

Hmm... I prefer not to have any truck with these new-fangled RFC thingies ;)
Hay-on-Wye is somewhere we've always wanted to forage so it could be a dangerous place to go - but what's a good thought experiment without a few singularities?